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[edit] Hub

Hi -- thanks for pointing out the mistake with the hub. I've switched it -- Color is now part of the Science hub. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help! -- Danny (talk) 23:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt action resolving the issue.--Bejjinks 03:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Caption for random images and more questions

We can use a Caption inside the Image frame, if the image would have the Color name as first text, instead the ==Summary==. Currently it is not usable, see badly example.
Series of random images on main page is not good idea. Often would see the same image. It's not real random, and not good for fast page loading (cache can't handle randoms). That's why I have only one image inserted. Ok?
How can I find the hexcode for a color? For example Caribic has 35 of such colors http://www.colorhunter.com/tag/caribic/. What would be the right for Caribic?
How can I find the Priority of color to add some on the Hexidecimal Chart? Or should list there only the main colors?

--HenryNe 21:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

We can use a Caption inside the Image frame ... Use the name of the color. Otherwise, I leave it to your discretion.
Series of random images on main page ... Okay but use the pictures such as the pictures of a dove or a flower. The point of the images on the front is to make the page more interesting. Using the squares of color is a little boring.
How can I find the hexcode for a color? ... Caribic is not a color. It is a palette. We are not interested in palettes. But to find the hexidecimal code: look at the pictures and the justification for a color and than using Gimp or some other art program, try different hexidecimal codes till you find one that matches the pictures and the justification. For example, if you look at the pictures for the color Caribbean, it is obvious that the color of the water off the Caribbean is typically a light blue green. It's hexcode should produce a color that is a light blue green. Also please choose more reliable sources for you colors. www.colorhunter.com is not a reliable source for colors. Some reliable sources include Wikipedia, http://chir.ag/phernalia/name-that-color/, and http://web.njit.edu/~kevin/rgb.txt.html. Even then please read http://color.wikia.com/wiki/Color_Sorting_Policies before creating new articles.
How can I find the Priority of color ... I would prefer that you leave priorities to the professionals to determine. Just use the talk page to tell us what hexcodes you chose and we'll determine the priority. Priorities are determined in such a way to keep an even distribution throughout the color range. It is difficult to explain the math involved but the highest priorities are those hexcodes that only use "FF" or "00", The next priorities are those that use "7F" as well. The next highest priorites use "AA" or "55". Eventually this will include thousands of colors but let's get the highest priorities first.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bejjinks (talk • contribs)

I will try to setup a random from selectable list of pictures. Than the 70x70 will not seen in the randoms, and we can have more as one random without doublets. But, the pictures self can't be clickable to the article. Have added a frame with caption. OK? --HenryNe 08:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

The frame with caption is okay. Thank you.--Bejjinks 14:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello Bejjinks, have setup a test page for random images with choices. Would such OK for main page randoms? If yes, then we need some codings in the Media self and add the 'randomcaption' in the title or footer, here are two examples: milk.jpg or in other way corn.jpg.

I don't understand. Both links took me to edit pages and I don't know enough about coding to figure out what either would do. --Bejjinks 23:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the difference is only viewable in the Edit. To have a title (or caption) in the random pictures, there I have added the text enclosed in 'randomcaption'. Only with such code, the captions can made for random pictures. Check it also out with "Cancel", because it is sligly different from your original. Milk has an extra Title and Cornsilk has added footer lines.
Without that changes on the Image texts, Randoms with caption-link to article would not doable.
And, thanks for the Talk:Suggestions, is very helpfully. --HenryNe 00:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I really don't understand. Just do what you think best. All that matters to me is that it be interesting pictures that attract visitors to explore further. --Bejjinks 00:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What this wiki needs most

I love how the Marvel Database handles templates and I wish to have something similar set up on Color Sorting. This is what I've come up with so far:

{{Template:Color Article
Alternate Names              = <!-- The template should automatically place this info where the * is. If blank, the * should not be included in the page. -->
Hexidecimal Code             = <!-- The template should automatically place this code where the ** is. If blank, this page should be automatically categorized as [[Category:Articles that lack a hexcode]] -->
Justification                = This color was named for <!-- The template should automatically place this info where the *** is. If blank, this page should be automatically categorized as [[Category:Articles that lack justification]] -->
Image                        = <!-- The template should automatically place this image where the **** is. If blank, this page should be automatically categorized as [[Category:Articles that lack images]] -->
Source                       = <!-- The template should automatically place this info where the ***** is. If blank, this page should be automatically categorized as [[Category:Articles that lack sources]] -->
This color is a shade of     = <!-- A bot should recognize the keywords: black, gray, white, pink, red, purple, blue, green, yellow, orange, and brown and categorize the color accordingly. If blank, this article should be categorized as [[Category:Articles that are not categorized by shade]]  -->
?                            = <!-- A bot should recognize keywords. I do not have a complete list of keywords but here are some of the keywords the bot should recognize: fruit, animal, vegetable, gem, metal, drink, person, wood, and plant. The bot should categorize the color accordingly. For example, The color cherry is named after a fruit and the color alice is named after a person. If blank, this article should be categorized as [[Category: Articles that are not categorized by name type]] -->
<!-- Contributors should also have the option of adding additional sections and tables. These can be left blank and skipped. -->
}}

{{Square| ** }}
*
=Codes and Numbers=
Please check out [[Hexidecimal Chart]] to see what codes are available to name.
The hexadecimal code that matches this color is **
=Justification=
This article will be judged by what is written as a justification and may be deleted or rewritten if the justification does not adhere to the [[Color Sorting Policies]].
***
=Confirmation by Picture=
****
=References=
*****

--Bejjinks 23:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I see. It's a template with names. Should doable. For this I need some more study the Mediawiki docs. --HenryNe 00:06, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you --Bejjinks 00:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Bejjinks, please check Template:Test Article and try to use it on a Sandbox or on a new article you like. The usage is importand, so other contributers would also use it. I have tested with Milk/test and Carrot/test. A "Bot" can later do some, by the while a human must fill all fields. The Table of Contens (TOC) I have disabled. The edit sections [edit] I leaved enable. Categories "lack" are codes, but I feel, it is not workable.
Say, what you missing or what is wrong. Please Move the Template:Test Article to a short name, that you wand to use later in the Article. I would say for example Template:Article. --HenryNe 22:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Categories "Articles that lack ..." works now. --HenryNe 23:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

This works good. Should I wait to start using it? --Bejjinks 05:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)--Bejjinks 05:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't wait. ;) I'm ready with. We can add more later, if would need more.
Before use, please do two steps:

Move or copy the Template into a name you like: "Template:Color Article", "Template:Color" or "Template:Article". A name without my Test.
Inside the Template than change the old name for user helps from "Test Article" into new name, for example "Color Article", "Color" or "Article". This name exist there 2x near the top. Please don't protect the template, as long we have no vandalism here. --HenryNe 07:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Done Template:Color Article. --Bejjinks 13:32, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Uh, problem. Check out Zinnwaldite and what happened when I tried to use the template. What did I do wrong? --Bejjinks 13:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem, there was needed to copy the wiki code behind into the Template, not the visable part only. It's working now. --HenryNe 16:04, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Preloads with Template for new articles

Hello Bejjinks, there exist a new feature on the Helping out. You can type the new color name there and the Template will be preload for you from button "Create new article". You not need copy&paste from Template:Color Article hands made. (But, is doable also.)
If you wand (later) change the text for this Preload, you needs to edit the Preloader. I know, it's a liddle tricky, because I can not make the Preloader visable. --HenryNe 16:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

You are so helpful. Thank you. I did edit your work slightly. I did not edit any code. I just made your English sound more like English. I know how tricky it can be translating articles, prepositions and verb tenses between German and English. Ich habe Deutsch fur zwei jahre gelernt. But I'm not fluent in German. --Bejjinks 23:03, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for adjust my spelling. I'm learning by reading. :) --HenryNe 12:53, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alternate Shade

Hello Bejjinks, the fields "Shade of ..." and "Named after ..." are used for automatically creation of Categories "Shades of ...". So, there can be handle only one word. For colors with two "Shades of" have added a second field "Alternate Shade =" and used in the colors, for example Cyan, Lotus. This field can be missing or empty, if not used.
Say, if we need more fields for others too. --HenryNe 12:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you--Bejjinks 13:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gallery for more as one picture?

Hello, I found the option 'gallery' would be usable for list of pictures, for example see Caribbean/test. Compare it with the Caribbean. An other example is Coral (Feel free to revert me, if it's not good idea). What views better? What like you?
By the while have replaces all Stub articles with new Template. --HenryNe 18:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I like the 'gallery' option you found. And thanks for taking care of the stubs. I've started filling in some of the missing pieces of the different articles and it has been a lot easier since the articles are being categorized by what pieces are missing. You've made everything a lot easier for me. --Bejjinks 19:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I have also tried to fill out some missing`s. But, I can not translate all. So I have only filled, where I'm was sure. I have added the "new stubs" categories on Main page. Please fill the Category-description text with some good English words for the lists from articles that lacks Images, Hexcode, Sources, Justification, Shade of ... and Name type. --HenryNe 20:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

For the 'gallery': You have seen how it works? I will add also an example to the Template self. --HenryNe 20:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] size limit for picture images on articles

Hello Bejjinks, I have size limited by adding |300px to image links. That seems me better. What size you would prefer for images, 300 pix or 600 pix? —HenryNe 23:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

300 pix seems best. Thank you. --Bejjinks 14:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

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